Giant P-SLR1 Wheelset. With widely spaced flanges for increased stiffness and DT Swiss. Into the dropouts on your bike so you can tighten them. Up for sale is my 2011 Giant TCR Advanced 2 Road Bike. It is Giants Advanced carbon frame, 105 group set and Limited edition DT Swiss wheel set. I ordered this wheelset new from a. DT Swiss Tricon R 1700 'Giant Branded' wheel woes. Must've purchased mega surplus from Giant that came standard. Amazon.com: wheelset dt swiss. Interesting Finds Updated Daily. DT Swiss X1700 29er Bike Wheelset Tires 12x142 15x100 Thru Axle Shimano 11s NEW.
I hope you have ridden the bike before purchase?Well there lies the problem. The shop has no TCR's in stock. Hmm, I guess I better find a shop that has a TCR, regardless of spec, for me to ride and make sure the geometry isn't going to kill me. Unfortunately, I'm right in between a Small and a Medium. I know this is only a guideline, but Giant recommends the Small for 5' 4' to 5' 7' riders, and the Medium for 5' 7' to 5' 10' riders. I'm 5' 7' tall (or short) with a 31 1/2' inseam, which seems strange, because I normally wear 30' inseam jeans. Hmm, maybe they sag a little bit?
To me, it just makes positioning them slightly more awkward. They do the job but I don't think they're a huge leap forward. The weights of our test wheels are 662g (f) and 822g (r) for a combined total of 1,484g (without the quick releases). That's considerably more than Giant's claimed 1,390g per pair but it's still pretty light. You can get wheels of a similar weight for a fair bit less than this though. These wheels perform really impressively out on the road. I went for a standard setup with Giant's own tyres (which we'll also review soon) and a set of inner tubes.
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Hi guys, I was hoping you'd see my post for the 2011 Scott Scale RC where I also broke down the wheels. They aren't light. I believe about 1967grams for the pair. That includes a rim strip. The bike ships with valve stems for easy conversion to tubeless. I haven't tried it yet but it looks like it shouldn't be very hard. I'll let you know.
Hmm, maybe they sag a little bit? I measured inseam barefoot using a 1 1/4' thick book up my crotch. I'm 37 and in good shape. I can still get flat over the top tube of a bike without it bothering me.
The facts are that a low spoke count, light wheel, built with straight pull radial spokes is not a robust wheel for someone of 80kg. It may well survive but that is not in any way proof that is is suited to the task. Nope, it doesn't, but I also take an evidence based approach, for which I personally think there is sufficient evidence to conclude that the ORIGINAL assertion made (not the revision quoted above) regarding the need for 32 j-bend spokes is not substantiable.
Is it the wheels? How much better are the Ksyrium Elite wheels over the R1800 wheels? I can get the 2010 for $2600 and the 2011 for $2500 and I'm unsure what to do. This will be my first road bike, so I will be riding the factory wheelset for at least a year. I'm not interested in replacing the wheelset, unless it were free, so please no suggestions there. Thanks for the advice.
I'm torn between the with an ARP (Average Retail Price) of $3100 and the which had an ARP of $3400. Both are equipped with Ultegra 6700. The 2010 comes with the Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheelset and the 2011 comes with the DT Swiss R1800 Giant LTD Edition wheelset. This is also the same wheelset that you can find on the less expensive 105 5700 equipped that had an ARP of $2470. Why is the ARP of the 2011 $300 less than 2010? Where is the decrease in cost?
Typical factory build. At 80kg I am afraid you are pushing the boundaries (even though you think it is not heavy). The broken spokes probably means the wheel tension is not good and replacing individual spokes without properly tensioning the wheel (so means using a tension guage) is a recipe for continued problems.
Nope, it doesn't, but I also take an evidence based approach, for which I personally think there is sufficient evidence to conclude that the ORIGINAL assertion made (not the revision quoted above) regarding the need for 32 j-bend spokes is not substantiable.
Is it the wheels? How much better are the Ksyrium Elite wheels over the R1800 wheels?
You get 18 at the front and 24 at the rear, open crowfoot laced – a combination of radial and crossed – and they’re held in place with torx nipples that won’t round off. Just make sure you’ve got the right tool with you. We’ve put several hundred miles into our Tricons and they’ve not needed any fettling so far. The Tricons are certainly energetic – really eager to pick up speed and exceptional on the climbs. And whereas making lightweight is easy enough if you don’t mind them bending about, the high spoke tension keeps these impressively stiff – we had just the slightest discernible flex when throwing the bike around ridiculously hard.
Really, really, really? If you want reliable wheels that do not need constant tensioning or replacement spokes then yes REALLY. Nope, sorry, you can get plenty of reliable wheels that don't need constant tensioning or replacement spokes, with fewer spokes than that, and they can and will suit heavier riders. Sure, not all will, but plenty will. And 80kg is not heavy.
Allows more volume, better stability and better (IMHO) tread profile. I haven't found myself wanting anything over 2.3' tire width, and usually run 2.2' on the front wheel and either 2.2' or 2.1' on the rear wheel with air pressures in the mid to high twenties.Thanks for the feedback. I was wondering how these worked out for you. I am currently using the S-XC2 and was thinking about going to Stan's Flow EX. I am hoping to lower the weight of the bike and get a better wheel for tubeless then what I have, as they burp a lot if I get below 30 PSI.Didn't save a heap of weight, but some. Sorry I don't have the exact figures on-hand. Definitely stiffer wheels though and I love running tubeless.
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I've been riding mountain bikes since 1993, so I'm not new to riding. My last two mountain bike frames were purchased without me riding the same frame built up. Thanks for the continued advice.Hi, if your height is 5'7' a small TCR sould fit you fine. If between sizes on a brand, going for a different brand/geometry is a good option. For example, I'm 5'8' and have owned both medium and small TCRs. For some reason I feel better fit on the small. I also have a Trek Madone 4.5 size 54cm and, measuring my bikes, have found out that the Madone fits right between Giant small and medium.
Really, really, really? If you want reliable wheels that do not need constant tensioning or replacement spokes then yes REALLY. Nope, sorry, you can get plenty of reliable wheels that don't need constant tensioning or replacement spokes, with fewer spokes than that, and they can and will suit heavier riders.
This is my first road bike, so I'm kind of new at this. I've been riding mountain bikes since 1993, so I'm not new to riding. My last two mountain bike frames were purchased without me riding the same frame built up. Thanks for the continued advice. What does a person normally do when a shop doesn't have the size or model they want to buy? This is my first road bike, so I'm kind of new at this.
Typical factory build. At 80kg I am afraid you are pushing the boundaries (even though you think it is not heavy).
Brake Levers Shimano 105 5700 Cassette Shimano 105 5700 12x25, 10-Speed Chain Shimano 105 Crankset Shimano 105 5700, 39/53 Bottom Bracket Shimano Dura-Ace, Internal Press Fit Rims DT Swiss R1800 Giant LTD Edition Hubs DT Swiss R1800 Giant LTD Edition Spokes DT Swiss Competition Tires Michelin Lithion 2, 700x23, Folding Weight The most accurate way to determine any bike’s weight is to have your local dealer weigh it for you. Many brands strive to list the lowest possible weight, but in reality weight can vary based on size, finish, hardware and accessories.
I run 28-30psi without any issue. But I'm 115kg in riding gear. They've stayed true through some fairly rough riding.
I'm torn between the with an ARP (Average Retail Price) of $3100 and the which had an ARP of $3400. Both are equipped with Ultegra 6700. The 2010 comes with the Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheelset and the 2011 comes with the DT Swiss R1800 Giant LTD Edition wheelset.
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That rear wheel is compatible with Shimano/SRAM; there's no Campag option on offer. The wheels are held together with Aerolite stainless steel spokes that are bladed to cut through the air. You get 16 up front (radially laced) and 20 at the rear (radial on the driveside, 2-cross on the non-driveside). At the rim end they sit in little inserts that have a large contact area with the rim itself – it's technology taken directly from DT Swiss. The inserts are the same as you'll find on the Tricon wheels that. By spreading the load in this way, the manufacturer can use less material in the rim and so keep the weight down.
Let me know if you'd like further details I couldn't think of. I sent a query yesterday to DT Swiss through their website and I received the following reply today. Kudos to DT Swiss for their prompt and helpful response.
Also take notice that handlebar height, combined with handlebar type and width, influences greatly on fit and can deceive on your size quest. I haev just bought the giant TCR advanced 2011, medium frame (50) with DT Swiss wheels.
And the argument is most certainly reversed, the OP has almost certainly had bad luck / less than optimal service, rather than the vast majority of wheel users having good luck. Pkripper wrote:I take it you're not a scientist? Take it how you like, even if you are, it does not make you right.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Giants use thru-axle front setups. You could get a hub set from just about any manufacturer then. Chris King, Hadley, Hope Pro 2, DT Swiss 240s, and even Shimano XTR are all great hubs. Check out youtube for how they sound, they're all pretty darn durable. If I were you I'd pick a hub or two that I like, and run down to the LBS to get a price on some hand built wheels, where you can spec out exactly what you want And if they're hand built they might be easier to repair as they'll use standard parts instead of something proprietary. I'd convert your P-XC2 rims to tubless (ps stans makes a kit) and call it a day. Between the Arch and Flow, I'd go with the Flows at your weight.
Not sure if that is true.i did not see weights listed. Mavics are often cited as being expensive. Can you ride both and see if you notice any difference during hard acceleration?
I am only selling it because I have a cx bike I am going to be using for both road and cross and I can't afford to have them both. This is a awesome bike and it has about 1600 miles on it in the 2 years I owned it. I bought it as a new left over and it hasn't seen much of the road I am sorry to say. My loss is your gain. Retailed for 2600 new, but can be yours for 1400.
Is it the wheels? How much better are the Ksyrium Elite wheels over the R1800 wheels?
I am 5 foot 7 1/2 inches with inside leg about 29 inches. Spongebob diner dash 2 download. I tried this bike on the trainer versus the equivalent Defy with same spec.
What does a person normally do when a shop doesn't have the size or model they want to buy? This is my first road bike, so I'm kind of new at this. I've been riding mountain bikes since 1993, so I'm not new to riding. My last two mountain bike frames were purchased without me riding the same frame built up. Thanks for the continued advice.Hi, if your height is 5'7' a small TCR sould fit you fine. If between sizes on a brand, going for a different brand/geometry is a good option.
• 2010 Custom Giant Glory I built the bike from frame up back in 2010. It has spent the majority of the past few years in storage while I have been working away for school. The bike does have your normal used cosmetic wear.
DT Swiss's new wheelset boasts several innovative design features and is tubeless compatible. Adobe acrobat xi crack. The 1450 refers to the claimed weight, though ours came in at 658g (front) and 826g (rear) – 1,484g in total – plus 76g for the skewers. That’s light but not mega-light, although you do have the advantage of the tubeless option, with its better resistance to pinch punctures, and without standard inner tubes you’ll save about 200g so things start to look much more impressive. After a bit of cursing we got the hang of getting ours inflated without tubes, with a track pump and no sealant, and they stayed up well too. The beefed-up flanges are machined separately from the main hub shell and bonded in place, which DT Swiss reckon keeps the bearing seat tension-free, lowering rolling resistance and keeping them spinning more smoothly. Those bearings are high-quality cartridge-type; they felt buttery out of the box and have stayed that way throughout testing – no worries there.
The broken spokes probably means the wheel tension is not good and replacing individual spokes without properly tensioning the wheel (so means using a tension guage) is a recipe for continued problems. The spokes and bearings may be DT but the build/subsequent repairs is probably the issue. At your weight you really need 32 spokes built with proper j-spokes with good (verified) tension. Smidsy wrote:At your weight you really need 32 spokes built with proper j-spokes with good (verified) tension. I mean, really really?
Really pleased with mine and geometry seems much more comfortable to me than the Defy. This years frame has some improvements over last years as well, I believe.
The straight-pull spokes are double butted and bladed for aerodynamics. You get 18 at the front and 24 at the rear, open crowfoot laced – a combination of radial and crossed – and they’re held in place with torx nipples that won’t round off. Just make sure you’ve got the right tool with you. We’ve put several hundred miles into our Tricons and they’ve not needed any fettling so far. The Tricons are certainly energetic – really eager to pick up speed and exceptional on the climbs.
If you want reliable wheels that do not need constant tensioning or replacement spokes then yes REALLY. Nope, sorry, you can get plenty of reliable wheels that don't need constant tensioning or replacement spokes, with fewer spokes than that, and they can and will suit heavier riders. Sure, not all will, but plenty will. And 80kg is not heavy. And 75kg is not a lot less. And the argument is most certainly reversed, the OP has almost certainly had bad luck / less than optimal service, rather than the vast majority of wheel users having good luck.
Mavic has a flat spoke.I think I notice that they are influenced by a strong cross breeze.I own them on a 2009 Defy Advanced 1. They held up well for 2k miles.
That’s light but not mega-light, although you do have the advantage of the tubeless option, with its better resistance to pinch punctures, and without standard inner tubes you’ll save about 200g so things start to look much more impressive. After a bit of cursing we got the hang of getting ours inflated without tubes, with a track pump and no sealant, and they stayed up well too. The beefed-up flanges are machined separately from the main hub shell and bonded in place, which DT Swiss reckon keeps the bearing seat tension-free, lowering rolling resistance and keeping them spinning more smoothly. Those bearings are high-quality cartridge-type; they felt buttery out of the box and have stayed that way throughout testing – no worries there.
I don't know how long I can maintain that position though. I have no back or other body part injuries. The shop I will be ordering through is going to measure me up to determine the best size. What does a person normally do when a shop doesn't have the size or model they want to buy?
Of the 7 that 4 of them have Wheelbuilder wheelsets on them. I won't bore with the details of the individual builds but I will say this. Out of the 4 with collectively 1000's of miles on them, I have only had have 1 wheel retrued. And the truth of the matter is that was actually a rebuild because of the crater size pot hole I hit.
Hmm, maybe they sag a little bit? I measured inseam barefoot using a 1 1/4' thick book up my crotch. I'm 37 and in good shape. I can still get flat over the top tube of a bike without it bothering me. I don't know how long I can maintain that position though.
Can anyone advise on what to do about a problematic set of wheels I am trying to deal with. Basically I have a set of Giant P-SL1 wheels which are allegedly developed in conjunction with DT Swiss. I had a spoke snap a few months ago which was repaired under warranty. I've just had another one go and it looks increasingly like this is a problem with the build quality. Giant are refusing to do anything other than replace the spoke but I'm not happy as I dont want to be getting more broken spokes if I'm far from home (I've been lucky so far). Apparently (according to Giant) spoke breakages are to be expected and this is normal. If this is the case I can only conclude Giant / DT Swiss wheels are poor quality and are to be avoided.
The facts are that a low spoke count, light wheel, built with straight pull radial spokes is not a robust wheel for someone of 80kg. It may well survive but that is not in any way proof that is is suited to the task. Nope, it doesn't, but I also take an evidence based approach, for which I personally think there is sufficient evidence to conclude that the ORIGINAL assertion made (not the revision quoted above) regarding the need for 32 j-bend spokes is not substantiable.